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12 days ago, an immigration spending bill was rejected, throwing the government into a partial shutdown.
A countless number of government services, like the National Park Service, were shutdown. The shutdown is the third of its kind this term, and this time, it was an argument over border protection.
President Donald Trump has long stated that America needs a wall. During his campaign, he promised to build one between the United States and Mexico to keep illegal immigrants out. However, the Democrats are in full opposition. The current plan allocates 5 billion dollars to build Trump’s wall. Democrats, on the other hand, want no funding for the wall, and instead, more money to be put on “general border security”
This Wednesday, the Republicans and Democrats are expected to hold a meeting with Donald Trump to dicuss funding. The House also plans to release a spending bill, although it unlikely to get approved by the president.
The shutdown could have been avoided and the issue it is all about is totally misguided.
Our president, being the obstinate and cantankerous person that he is–unwilling to compromise about border security ever since he first proposed his so-called (and unnecessary) Wall–whose components keep changing–refuses to entertain the possibility that it makes little sense. A Wall won’t stop those seriously determined to enter the U.S. And they are the ones we should most be concerned about–terrorists, drug dealers, and yes, rapists and murderers. The others just want to work here and avoid poverty and starvation (mostly Central Americans).
The bad eggs will burrow under any Wall, fence etc., fly over it, and hide clandestinely in vehicles that penetrate it (at borders). Beef up security electronically and put up more Wall if necessary, but an impermeable border is a fool’s dream. I vote democratic but am generally conservative in many of my values. This is a big, unnecessary expense and is hurting millions who depend on the government to stay open.
The WSJ and some conservatives think the demos should broker an extension of the Dream Act for SOME wall to be built, but right now Democrats are firm that NO funds should be spent on the proposed Wall but are willing to spend up to $2 billion on “border security.” If only Trump would realize that an impermeable border is impossible and go with a partial iron slat fence, and electronic surveillance.
The Wall sends entirely the wrong message to an ally. Did you know that Wisconsin governor Scott Walker suggested a wall might need to go up between the U.S. and Canada? And this was before trade relations with the Canucks really soured when Trump proposed his new Nafta and criticized Canada for its “huge” trade imbalance.
I am a Republican and I fully support President Trump shutting the government down.
We need a wall.
A lot of countries have walls for their protection. Israel has a wall for their protection and they are one of our stanchest allies. I am sick to death of the liberals registering illegal immigrants to vote based upon the driver’s license that they give to them.
It is called motor voter registration. They are shattering the Constitution which says that only American citizens can vote in our elections. This is especially true in sanctuary cities, not to mention, all the American citizens illegals end up killing, raping etc.
The liberals were all on record supporting a wall and border security before Trump was elected and now they claim that it is immoral. Have any of the press asked them in what way is a wall immoral? The press always accepts what liberals say without question at face value and challenge everything Trump says or conservative say. The liberals have been on record supporting hate speech legislation.
Trump will not cave like other conservative presidents and will ultimately get his wall. This is why we elected him to be the disturber in chief. Most of the Republicans in office act like the school nerds with the Libtard bullies beat them and steal their lunch money. Trump made it okay for them to finally find their backbone and it started when the liberals tried to derail Kavanaugh’s confirmation.
We need protection. In my opinion Trump is not being aggressive enough. He is continuing to allow sanctuary cities to flout the law and our constitution. They continue to register illegals to vote through the motor voter app.
He also needs to remove the secrets status from the emails and establish his own special counsel to go after the crooked FBI agents, the former head of the IRS and prosecute her and above all else prosecute the Clintons. They have gotten away with flouting the law for too long. On the other hand, he has gotten a lot done with no cooperation from anyone. He has endured 99% hate speech 24/7.
Finally, the conservatives need to take a play from the Democratic playbook and rally around the troops and all sing the same song. Help them pass their hate speech legislation and then hold them accountable to it because they are the most egregious offenders of that “black art”
The recent government shutdown in Washington demonstrates a truly broken and dysfunctional political system in America right now. As a registered member of the ‘Independent Party’ it is disheartening to see both the ‘Republican Party’ and the ‘Democrat Party’ unable to compromise.This most recent government shutdown over the funding for 5 billion dollars for a border wall on the southern border is just the latest of a long series of recent government shut downs that demonstrate that Washington is completely incapable of looking out for the best interests of the American people. It is oftentimes suggested by the pundits on television that the American people like gridlock in Washington because the American people prefer limited government in which Washington does not overstep its Constitutional authority.
I disagree with this premise, and think the American people, myself included, are completely sickened by the constant bickering and gamesmanship in this extremely polarized environment in America. It should be unnecessary to shutdown the government in order for both parties to reach a compromise.
A bipartisan solution for ‘comprehensive immigration reform’ in America will require both parties to work together.Comprehensive immigration reform, in the U.S. requires increased border enforcement with legalization for unauthorized immigrants and the ability to bring in future workers needed by the U.S. labor market. Any solution to these outstanding problems must be bipartisan and politicians that are seen as not serious about working across the aisle will be punished by the voter.
The American people are no longer fooled by the never ending finger pointing by both parties and endless kabuki theater in Washington. We need real leaders that can find compromise with the opposing political party and fix this broken immigration problem for the benefit of all the American people.
That is just is just symptomatic of how dysfunctional our system has become. The self-serving, vote buying politicians have lost all sense of honor, duty and dedication to serve the best interests of the American people.
The shutdown is fueled by a Trump hating, hysteric media that is sold on a borderless, Global, Leftist world.
The shutdown is necessary, but only because the Democrats hate Trump so deeply that they refuse to overhaul our insane immigration laws. They and the media seem oblivious to the obvious fact that among these illegal invaders are criminals and others who will cause havoc in the US.
We have more dangerous Latin gang members in the US than ISIS has members worldwide. Latin Americans are taught from childhood to hate America. Their corrupt, inept governments perpetuate the myth that all of the troubles in Latin America are due to the Yankee Imperialists. And our Leftist leaning media backs them up while ignoring the horrors and failures of socialism in Cuba and Venezuela.
A noticeable portion of immigrants hate America, hate Whites, hate capitalism, hate Christianity, etc. and are here at best to make money to send home and a worst to do us harm. A big chunk of immigrants see Americans as lazy, stupid, weak, undeservedly rich and just waiting to be played for suckers.
In addition, both Islamic and Leftist terrorists have been trained by Cuba and Venezuela and armed by the Soviets. ( research Isle of Pines training centers ) The anti-Trump Republicans want the cheap immigrant labor and the Democrats want their Leftist votes. No one seems to care about the harm that not carefully choosing who comes into our country brings.
What party does it benefit? Frankly, both parties are despised. The only common ground the Democrats have is their hatred of Trump. The only common ground the Republican voters have is their hatred of the media. Nearly everyone with whom I speak would prefer a viable 3rd choice. I am basically a Libertarian who wants individual freedom, individual responsibility and the least amount of government as possible. I believe in honest capitalism.
Both parties and the media are so removed from the American Heartland that they do not understand the majority of Americans do not want these invaders from the South.They do want border security. They could care less about a bunch of government workers who are perceived as lazy do nothings. who basically attend work, live for retirement. get automatic raises and who will eventually get their money.
By the way—our tax dollars are apparently being wasted on the silly Feed the Pig ads. Why have not government workers been saving for the next shutdown a.k.a. paid vacation.Half of Americans despise the media and see them as Leftist propagandists.
The outcome will be kicking the can down the road as usual.
We are all asking the questions — Why is it that these illegal invaders get housing, money, medical care, etc. while we have homeless people walking our streets and our own children being neglected?
Why is it that our welfare people are so stupid/lazy you cannot teach them to make a hotel room bed, wash a dish, tie rebar or pick at tomato??
Why have we had so many shutdowns this term?
Because the media is in perfect tune with the Trump hating Democrats and back stabbing Rhinos to do anything and everything possible to destroy Trump. No one cares about what is really good for America. Everyone knows our immigration laws are insane and we are being invaded by people we do not need and will be a drain on our resources.
Immigration should be merit-based. The concept of an asylum seeker is being abused and exploited.
But since the goal is to destroy Trump, who cares about what is good or bad for America??
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